it seems that JH, IS EITHER TACTING IN THE WIND, or he has come to his senses . i see a 180 degree turn around in this thread... were is my friend SHERWOOD.. I guess he will be in the public library before he tries that wt pile of shit again.... Sherwood tell me about the punic wars... or ganic khan or the mongole hourds..... the wt is in bad shape when a person like me , with limited knowledge can make lairs out of them with ease.....john
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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johnny cip
sherwood: hope you know your history , sounds like you read that bull shit right out of the live forever book... now lets talk facts,,, lets stArt with famine, in 1900 there was 1.2 billion people on earth .. today we have over 6 billion if famine was so bad how can we feed 500% more people today.. more people died in India in the 1800's from famine , than the whole world in the 1900,s some 300 million thats just in India and in countries that have a hunger problem it's the churches of christiandom that the wt hates that sends food medicine and doctors, to help as jesus said to do . but what does the wt send books... you can't eat wt books so the wt is part of the problem, they don't care for noone but your money... the wt don't show the needy the love of christ.... never .... you want to talk about desease, get your facts straighttrhe spanish flu was not the worst killer of all time,, ever here of the black plague 30 million in europe alone a third of the pop, any were from 120 165 million world wide at the time and that don't include africa... and this was just after the mongoles wiped out everyone they could find from china to europe and they killed everyone in there path... maybe a 100 million or so more . and what happened to the indians when the europeans came to america,, they brought the black plague here and it killed about 90% of naTIVE AMERICANS ALL UP AND DOWN NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA WITH OUT A SHOT BEING FIRED.. you are talking untold millions more. now lets talk about the black plague in the 20th century it is known as SMALL POX when the doctors came up with a cure vaccine, it was none other than satans org, the watchtower that said any thinking person would not get a vaccination as it was from the devil jw's were not allowed to get one till the 60's now how many 100's of millions or billions were saved from sure death thanx to vaccanations... all against the false teaching of the GOD in brooklyn .... you want to talk about wars... well more people were killed in the french spainish war in the 1700's than ww1 the same for the neopoliananic wars .. and the 30 year war with germany in the 1700's and the list goes on and on and on... try reading some history books on different wars... then come back with all that wt bullshit about ww1.. earthguakes well the wt got that wrong too!!! and they have changed that teaching... look up the history of earthquakes the only thing the wt is right about is that in the last 100 yrs reporting is better, with the rictor scale and even doctor iko the wt quotes as saying that earthquakes are worst in the 20th century has wrote the wt letters saying they MISQUOTED HIM and that the 20 century is no different than any other time, in fact in the 20 century it is a little quite with earthquakes. sherwood you need to go to the library and look up all these things... i did it 3 years ago , for months every time i came home from the library i would watch my jw dad 's face turn blue with the research i found in history books that never mentioned the wt but make their teaching just a look like a pile of shit!!!! just a word of advice.... spend some time in the public library before you make such statements about 1914. you will be surprised as i was... you are baring false witness in the name of jehovah with all this wt crap.... and the bible says that a false witness will be thrown in the lake of fire... so do your home work.... freedom in christ ...........john
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YPA.... Why Do My Friends Keep Leaving The Truth?
by ISP in*** g03 3/8 23-5 why do my friends keep leaving the truth?
youngpeopleask... .
why do my friends keep leaving the truth?
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johnny cip
isp, it was still good, and the wt does write such things, but worded different
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YPA.... Why Do My Friends Keep Leaving The Truth?
by ISP in*** g03 3/8 23-5 why do my friends keep leaving the truth?
youngpeopleask... .
why do my friends keep leaving the truth?
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johnny cip
isp;; very good, just from reading that .. it is obvios that the wt knows a few months on the net researching the wt , will make a jw write a da letter... great now i can move up in the cong. and learn to hold the mic... what a joy!!! if i' really put in alot of time i might get to work the parking lot, and crash up the bro's cars, boy that will be fun.... yes the wt knows the net will expose them,, they even know how long it will take , afew months... john
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Secrets of a KH Fartologist
by blackguard inunbeknown to the general membership, the watcher corporations throughout the english speaking world employs professional flatulents(noun).
the reason for this should become obvious to those not familiar with the mind-controlled environment in the corporate gulags sometimes called congregations.
i was one of several fartologists who was sent to various gulag hotspots to quell dissent.. we have three major specialities: the ionizer, the paint peeler and the sunday special.
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johnny cip
any one that can clear out a kh with one BLAST. HAS to have the favor of god....
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Please help on quotes
by Gig ini remember reading a wt quote that says something about finding footprints that wander all over and don't seem to be heading in any particular direction...and asks would you follow.
can any of you help me find this one and any/all others where the wt condemns their own course.
those that ridicule false teachings and mistakes/corrections of other religions that they themselves have done.. and secondly, any/all pure lies that are quick and easy for anyone to see.
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johnny cip
gig; i have hundreds in my mind but don't haVE ALL THE WT dates in my mind, BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A FEW.... if you know about 1925 and can give a good witness against it... try nov 15 1955 pg 698 jehovah caused rutherford to preach millions now living will never die from 1918 on..... wt 4 1 63 pg 218 etc... when ever you see a new wt glorifying the 1919 or 1922 conventions in cedar point ohio.. you can say their main theme was that the world was to end in 1925 try nov 15 1923 where rutherford was more sure about 1925 than noah was about the flood...go to search the web and go to the site JW RESEARCH IT IS GREAT.. OR QUOTES SITE. or try and awake mag till oct 1995 on pg 4 on the CREATORS PROMISE THAT THE GENERATION OF 1914 WILL BEE THE LAST TO LIVE.... READ MY POST TO YOU IN YOUR LAST THREAT you can say any thing to these jw's and get away with it as they will never look it up... go for 4-1-72 pg 197-200 were they say they are prophets of god or 10-1-82 pg 27 aw 6-8-86 pg9 etc etc i leike new wt's were they say the same thing so it's not old light ... you need to do some research... they are still saying millions now living today ... will never die..5-1-99... 1-1-97 pg 11 also in 2001 look it up .. on a back page... puty them on the spot to prove you wrong.....john
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A day in the life of the WTS
by Gig instill i try to find a way to talk with my jw friend about the wts.
pretty much every conversation, at least so far, has ended similarly...with my friend falling back on "classic" wt defenses.
one of which i single out today...the insistence that they are the one true religion because they are the only ones who go "house to house".
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johnny cip
gig; that was a very good kick on the wt.. on fact one of the best i heard in awhile... short and to the point... that is called what i like to say giving the jw's NO QUARTER... TRY THIS ONE when exposing any wt false teaching.. after asking the question , then ask if that rotten spritual food..was WORSHIP PLEASING TO JEHOVAH..... and keep asking it ... because the new wt's call the old books bible truth etc... then give an example from a new wt etc... so is this the new light the wt teaches... that old false prophecy was worship pleasing to jehovah... then take them to zeph 3:13 it's very easy stick to your point and keep asking was that worship pleasing to jehovah .... thank you gig i will add what you said to my pitch..... keep up the good work.....john
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An Astonishing Gap In My Knowledge.
by Englishman inparents converted to dubdom 1954.. commenced door knocking 1956.. baptised yankee stadium assembly 1958.. running 3 bible studies 1965.. giving public talks in many different congregations 1966.. ministerial servant, 2 jobs, 1966.. disfellowshipped 1972.. learned, via friday on h20, that the faithful and discrete slave class is the term used for the 144, 000 on earth, 2002.. during my entire witness life, commencing in 1954, right though until 2002, a time span of 38 years, i had always thought that the faithful and discrete slave term applied to the watchtower bible and tract society.. either i wasn't a very good student who's heart was never in the ways of jw's, or i was just picking up the general gist of things, i have no idea.
but, how could i have remained so uninformed and so undetected for all of those years?.
weird.. did you ever get it wrong about anything?.
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johnny cip
ah yes the fds; well in co-op city we have a member of the fds ... it's sister silverstein, she says she is annointed.... so when dad has questions , i ask why do you always call a elder or bro... with one of the fds right here a few blocks away .... in fact she should be the head of the cong. the spritual leader? funny this one of the 144000 is always in the fs by her self and i never can remember any others jw's friendly with her.... guess she has too much light.... john
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Well, I'm unofficially shunned
by reubenfine ini sat on my hands for months, wrote emails that i never sent, and finally i told my family about the un scandal.
my mom still loves me although she disagrees, but my sisters told her that they are having a family get together and i'm not invited because i'm an apostate.
my mom says if they are going to talk about me then she isn't going.
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johnny cip
hi ruebin fine;; when i read your posts,,, i see a person who is honest, and not afraid of others,, you have won a place in my heart, from the first time i read your words... you are very open minded and i think you see all sides of a arguement... rare for a x jw.... be well freedom in christ....john
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Blowing your Trumpet
by refiners fire inbrothers (sisters) .
now brothers, (and sisters) my concern is that the watchtower articles of prophetic significance in the 1969 book are different from the ones mentioned ( and assumedly significant) in the 1989 book.
brothers.
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johnny cip
refiners ; you are right and you are wrong... i do not have all the knowledge that you have or others... but i present the 1919 thing , in a no holds bared out blast... and i do take wt print outs of old wt's and read them... and i have been to the 42nd street library many times ,and have read a lot of old wt books... they try to laugh at me... but i shut them down fast... i just open a few new wt books and show were the wt calls the 1919 or other old wt crap bible truth... them i ask them to baqck it up .... get out the old books i'll study any one you want... then i let them know i have read many of them ,have you ? if they say they have read like say the harp of god i ask questions... about it .. they look like fools fast... even if i don't get all the facts right, they can't beat me ,, cause they never read any of this stuff... and living in N.Y.C. i challange them to get the books or we can go to the bethel and look there.... this is my pitch, and it hits hard,, i'm not nice . but after all this i let them know that they are not proving all things true james 4:17 etc then i give them jn 7:18 and zep 3:13 but every time i show them a old wt lulu i stop and ask that wt ? was that worshiop pleasing to jehovah.... it always stops them in their tracks......but i see what you are doing clearly ... and that is more effective than what i do.... cause when you are finished they will dug themselfs in a deep hole... one day i only hope to get a chance at a great pitch like you are getting.... remember that twilight zone show!!!!!!!!!! thank you again, aND I HAVE already used some of the contridictions you have shown me in this thread on my dad... as i know he has these newer books......john